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Ryanella
I couldn't find a thread on this...



QUOTE(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/09/17/dlgoogle117.xml)
Search giant Google has shown off its new "Google phone" operating system ahead of the device's official launch in New York next Tuesday.

Mike Jennings, one of the development team behind the Android operating system, gave attendees at a Google Developer Day conference a glimpse of how to design software for the device.
The Google HTC Android phone

He created a simple game showing a blue dot bouncing around the phone's screen, which moved as the handset was tilted.

Although the phone was obscured by masking tape, it is reported to have looked like the Dream, a handset developed by Taiwanese manufacturer HTC, which is expected to be the first commercially available mobile phone to run Android.

Google and T-Mobile are holding a joint press conference in New York next Tuesday, at which they are expected to confirm the launch of the HTC Dream and reveal further pricing information as well as details about the phone's final operating system.

It is thought the phone will go on sale in the UK early next month, and HTC has said that it expects to ship around 600,000 to 700,000 units of the Dream by the end of this year.

Android, the Google-backed operating system that will run on the device, is designed to bring the desktop computing experience to mobile devices, by allowing people to surf the internet and carry out everyday tasks on the go.

It will provide easy access to Google's web-based email service, Gmail, as well as a host of other Google products, including Docs, its productivity suite, and Google Maps.

The Dream is expected to contain a GPS chip, allowing it to double as a mobile sat-nav, and Google may also provide additional tools for the device to help push location-specific information to the phone's owner, such as weather forecasts, travel updates and restaurant recommendations.

The launch of the so-called "Google phone" will pit the search giant in direct competition with the likes of Apple's popular iPhone and the BlackBerry mobile email device.

It will also compete with other mobile phone operating systems, such as Symbian, widely used on Nokia devices, and Windows Mobile, which is available on many other handsets made by HTC.

Users of Android phones will also be able to download additional software and programs for their device, in a similar way to that in which iPhone users can add extra applications to their handset.

The Android operating system is open source, which means that anyone can build software to run on the device.



WANT.

Here's another site with some great info: http://www.google-phone.com/
nun
I thought that project was dead.

Dan Lyons sums it up nicely:

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No killer app. No consumer focus. And it’s open source rather than having a vertical stack like BlackBerry and iPhone. In other words, it’s the desktop Linux of mobile phones — a solution in search of a problem that doesn’t exist. Or, to put it another way, Android was indeed created to help solve a problem, but it’s not a problem that customers have, it’s a problem that Google has. Same for Chrome, when you think about it. Google is all about solving the world’s most difficult problems — specifically, those problems that prevent Google from owning every last piece of the world.


http://realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/08/ft...-it-even-ships/
Ryanella
Wow, he's really got it in for Google. What the hell is up his ass?
KVL
QUOTE(ryancook @ Sep 18 2008, 12:21 AM) *
Wow, he's really got it in for Google. What the hell is up his ass?


He just bought an iPhone 3G and Apple stock.
doa12
I kinda assumed he worked either directly for Microsoft or as a VAR.

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I could definitely see getting an open source phone as long as the service plan is reasonable. Having something like a sidekick, but not being limited to what apps you put on it would be great.
jackdaniels
T-Mobile, HTC, and Google just finished up their press conference on the G1. The G1 is the first Android based phone to launch on Oct. 22nd for $179. The Amazon music store is featured and will offer 6 million DRM free MP3's for $.89 per song. You sync the phone with push Google applications, Gmail, Gtalk, Contacts, etc. Data is $25 and $35 gives you unlimited SMS. I'll stick with my iphone 3G for now, but this could get interesting.
puzzlehead
And with the HTC you get...no headphone jack. You have to use that annoying adapter thing.

EDIT: Let me look for pics to see if I'm correct.
shirizaki
Google missed the point of having a mobile OS. It isn't to create a full OS on a phone, it's to create a less obtrusive mobile phone that has the features of a computer. Apple hit this by using a stripped down version of OSX. MS has been doing it for years with Windows Mobile.

Open Moko screwed this up. Sure the techies will eat it up, but the normal people who have to use a phone who want simplicity will shy away. The great thing about the iphone is it makes all the extra feature simple to use like a mobile phone.

Press to install.
Press to buy
Done.

You don't have to configure permissions of each program, nor do you have to do any strenuous application searching to find what you want.

Time will tell if Android turns into open moko or an iphone killer. The lack of being able to install android on your own phone stops it from spreading.
jackdaniels
QUOTE(puzzlehead @ Sep 23 2008, 07:51 PM) *
And with the HTC you get...no headphone jack. You have to use that annoying adapter thing.

EDIT: Let me look for pics to see if I'm correct.






Among other things the G1 is missing:
A headphone jack, software-sync with the computer (or even plans for it), no tethering, an upper limit of 8GB of removable memory at a time when the 1GB memory is upgraded, no multi-touch, no exchange support, no iTunes syncing, limited media player functionality, 1GB data limit per month (or be reduced to 50 kbps on T-Mobile... AT&T has a 5GB limit), noticeably slower web browser performance than iPhone, no core OS animation affects, etc.

It does have Copy & Paste though.
puzzlehead
Thanks for that!

Yeah, the sync thing sucks. I also heard that so far there was no video playback.
jackdaniels
QUOTE(puzzlehead @ Sep 23 2008, 10:31 PM) *
Thanks for that!

Yeah, the sync thing sucks. I also heard that so far there was no video playback.


There is no Video Player on the phone but there are a couple different players available from the App Store. Also all App's on the store are free for the first 90 days. Samsung and LG have Android based handsets in the works, so time will tell. It's a good start and this can only drive competition which is ultimately better for consumers. Hopefully some of the killer features will trickle down to the iPhone.
Ultragman
One thing I keep hearing is that the first couple of phones that use Android aren't going to be the "potential iPhone killers" (not sure who they're kidding there, but you know what I mean); those aren't set to drop until early 2009. It doesn't surprise me too much that the G1 is missing some important bits -- seems like it was rushed out of the gate.

I think in six months or so, with any luck we're going to start getting some killer phones using Android.
shirizaki
Well these killer phones gotta be on a better network than T Mobile.

I mean, seriously.
Ultragman
Ain't THAT the truth. I'm always surprised when I see they're still around.
Ryanella
QUOTE(Ultragman @ Sep 26 2008, 05:27 PM) *
Ain't THAT the truth. I'm always surprised when I see they're still around.


Have you ever used them? My wife and I have had them for 6 years and couldn't be happier.

Why are you surprised they are still around?


Back on topic...

One thing that really pisses me off is all media outlets are stating the the G1 will have a price tag of $179 with 2 yr contract. What they DON'T tell you is that you have to have had a contract for at least 22 months previously, without getting any phone upgrades, or any other discounts during that time, or else the phone will be $299 (and still with a 2 yr contract extension)!

Now, for $299, you may as well just get an iPhone.
Ultragman
I did use T-Mobile for a bit and I wasn't thrilled -- not out-and-out bad, but (at the time) they didn't seem to have anything particularly high-powered.

That and I forever think of them as the "Angelina Jolie Mobile Phone Service."
haloo
Anyone know if the extended battery by bc on fommy.com is any good?
doppletwo
QUOTE(Ultragman @ Sep 27 2008, 07:50 AM) *
I did use T-Mobile for a bit and I wasn't thrilled -- not out-and-out bad, but (at the time) they didn't seem to have anything particularly high-powered.

That and I forever think of them as the "Angelina Jolie Mobile Phone Service."



I thought it was Catherine Zeta Jones.
Ultragman
QUOTE(doppletwo @ Nov 7 2008, 10:04 PM) *
QUOTE(Ultragman @ Sep 27 2008, 07:50 AM) *
I did use T-Mobile for a bit and I wasn't thrilled -- not out-and-out bad, but (at the time) they didn't seem to have anything particularly high-powered.

That and I forever think of them as the "Angelina Jolie Mobile Phone Service."


I thought it was Catherine Zeta Jones.

Whoops! You are absolutely right. (What has Zeta Jones been up to lately? What happened to her?)

I keep hoping as it gets closer to the holidays we start hearing about some new 2009 Android-powered phones.
sentenced
Visual voice mail coming soon. Totally awesome.
doppletwo
Maybe by the time my contract is up all the software for features I want will be ready for this phone.
haloo
IM client could do with a makeover, it's pretty much bone bare and I frequently have problem with connecting to AIM/MSN.
Android Christ
I thought this thread was about me.
shirizaki
Google Ion/G2/HTC Magic w/ Android

http://gizmodo.com/5272229/t+mobile-g2-goo...-improved-award

Looks pretty awesome, save for the adapter. Why does HTC decide that adapters are an ideal situation.
doa12
QUOTE(shirizaki @ May 29 2009, 06:16 AM) *
Google Ion/G2/HTC Magic w/ Android

http://gizmodo.com/5272229/t+mobile-g2-goo...-improved-award

Looks pretty awesome, save for the adapter. Why does HTC decide that adapters are an ideal situation.

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But the keyboard itself? It falls just slightly short of the iPhone's.



The iPhone has a keyboard?
shirizaki
QUOTE(doa12 @ May 29 2009, 08:19 AM) *
QUOTE(shirizaki @ May 29 2009, 06:16 AM) *
Google Ion/G2/HTC Magic w/ Android

http://gizmodo.com/5272229/t+mobile-g2-goo...-improved-award

Looks pretty awesome, save for the adapter. Why does HTC decide that adapters are an ideal situation.

QUOTE
But the keyboard itself? It falls just slightly short of the iPhone's.
The iPhone has a keyboard?


The onscreen one.
shirizaki
Rumor: All US Andorid phones are supposed to update to 2.1 soon.

http://gizmodo.com/5481867/all-us-android-...-the-bump-to-21
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