[The Zot]

Darwin Movie

However, US distributors have resolutely passed on a film which will prove hugely divisive in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution.

I beg your pardon....THAT is wrong on so many levels.

I need some MARKETING STAT!

[nun]

Or maybe it's just a shit movie but the Producer wants to pretend he's a martyr?

Seems to me it's the religious films that get blacklisted in America.

[The Zot]

Or maybe it's just a shit movie but the Producer wants to pretend he's a martyr?

Seems to me it's the religious films that get blacklisted in America.

Nah,, it's British...they don't make shit movies.

[rick]

I dunno... its getting overall positive reviews and if America is the ONLY large market not buying it, the "shit movie" theory would seem a major stretch.

Seems to me that while many Americans believe those in the middle east are the developmental equivalent of 13th century folk, they forget that most of the "2009" world often see's much of America as something out of 1828.

[Matt]

The only one I found was 4 years old.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/18748/Most-Amer...planations.aspx

[The Gunslinger]

Wait so the real way that evolution happened didn't have to do with 2 naked white people in a middle eastern desert talking to snakes, eating apples, killing dinosaurs and fighting the Taliban?




who knew

[Dean]

Seems to me it's the religious films that get blacklisted in America.

Ahem...

The Passion of the Christ (2004) $370,270,943
The Da Vinci Code (2006) $217,536,138
The Exorcist (1973) $204,565,000
The Santa Clause (1994) $144,833,357
Sister Act (1992) $139,610,000
The Santa Clause 2 (2002) $139,225,854
Four Christmases (2008) $120,136,047

[nun]

We're talking about distribution, not public acceptance.

Mel Gibson went insane putting that movie out. Every other movie on that list either ridicules accepted religion or is The Exorcist which is far more a horror flick than it is a movie about religion.

[Dean]

A case could be made against any one of those films based on religion. Any movie about Christmas is by default a religious movie, even if you don't want to admit it.

[rick]

Perhaps if they retitled it Tyler Perry's Darwin Movie?

[aez]

But in the US, outside of New York and LA, religion rules.

It's a good thing he's above stereotyping.

This post has been edited by aez: Sep 14 2009, 01:08 PM

[gerry]

The Santa Clause is a religious movie? Then I guess the Easter Bunny is a religious figure, too. And the Great Pumpkin.
What is really significant in the data is that 29% believe that both evolution and creationism are probably true. This is why data drawn from the general public can't be used to prove a point; the general public are ignorant morons. Maybe having the church tell people what to believe wasn't such a bad thing?

[The Zot]

The Santa Clause is a religious movie? Then I guess the Easter Bunny is a religious figure, too. And the Great Pumpkin.
What is really significant in the data is that 29% believe that both evolution and creationism are probably true. This is why data drawn from the general public can't be used to prove a point; the general public are ignorant morons. Maybe having the church tell people what to believe wasn't such a bad thing?

You spelled Morons correctly.

[UncleMao]

It's sad to know that America is still going to believe that black babies are brought to their parents by ravens.

[bringthedoo]

We're talking about distribution, not public acceptance.

Mel Gibson went insane putting that movie out. Every other movie on that list either ridicules accepted religion or is The Exorcist which is far more a horror flick than it is a movie about religion.

I take it Ben Hur and The Seventh Sign don't count either.

I have to respectfully take the opposite stance here, nun. Not nearly enough Anti-theist movies make the mainstream. Someone needs to explain to asshats how asshattish they are. Thank Darwin for Hitchens and Maher and the like.

[nun]

Bill Maher's movie didn't have a hard time finding a publisher.

That's probably a far more "offensive" movie to the religious nation of America than some Darwin biopic (or whatever it is).

And that's what this is about, somebody coming forward and fronting money to put the movie out. This isn't about theatres not picking it up (that comes later) or the MPAA not allowing it to be shown. This is about distributors not thinking they can turn a buck on it.

If Pi can find financial backing and this movie can't .... it has to be a stinking turd of a movie.

Or maybe this producer is a total douchebag and everyone in the industry refuses to talk to him. That could be it ... well, no. Money trumps personality in the movie biz.

This post has been edited by nun: Sep 14 2009, 04:39 PM

[rick]

Dude there are reams of movies that don't find distribution for a myriad of reasons... stinking turd just being a nugget, if you will, in the massive pile (again, if you will).

That said, the publicity this may be getting for not having a distributor may directly result in it now getting one! And perhaps that was the intent all along?

I want to see this movie. But not likely in the theater.

[Dean]

The Santa Clause is a religious movie?

Yes

Then I guess the Easter Bunny is a religious figure, too.

Now you're getting it!

And the Great Pumpkin.

Nope, you lost it again...

You were doing so well.

[Thalia]

The distributors who don't want this really aren't doing the reputation of Americans any favours- it comes across either that they believe you to be backwards, close-minded religious nuts who will riot at the cinema, or too thick to understand the film and its debate and thus won't go for that reason.

I hope it's not crap- Jon Amiel made The Singing Detective! But he also made Entrapment.

Christmas films are not necessarily religious, they may be based on a religious festival and would not exist if it were not for that festival, but if said religious festival is becoming more commercial than religious, what does that mean for a FILM- essentially a product- based upon it?

[nun]

I hope it's not crap- Jon Amiel made The Singing Detective! But he also made Entrapment.

The Catherine Zeta-Jones' Ass movie? I guess the director lacks the cache as a producer. I'm surprised he didn't secure a deal before he made the movie since he already had ties to the inside.